Question Number 148689 by liberty last updated on 30/Jul/21

 Solve for x∈R    ((x^2 −x+1)/(x^2 +x+1)) = (√((x^3 −1)/(x^3 +1))) .

Answered by MJS_new last updated on 30/Jul/21

squaring (beware of false solutions!) and  transforming leads to  x^6 +(1/2)x^4 −(3/2)x^2 −(1/2)=0  let x=±(√(z−(1/6)))  z^3 −((19)/(12))z−((13)/(54))=0  z_1 =−((√(19))/3)cos ((π/6)+(1/3)arcsin ((26(√(19)))/(361))) ≈−1.17399865514  z_2 =−((√(19))/3)sin ((1/3)arcsin ((26(√(19)))/(361))) ≈−.154370149574  z_3 =((√(19))/3)sin ((π/3)+(1/3)arcsin ((26(√(19)))/(361))) ≈1.32836880471  ⇒  x_1 ≈±1.15787102987i  x_2 ≈±.566601108577i  x_3 ≈±1.07782286951  testing shows only x_2  and x_3  solve the given  equation. since x∈R we get  x≈±1.07782286951

Commented byliberty last updated on 30/Jul/21

Commented byliberty last updated on 30/Jul/21

correct sir. thanks

Answered by Rasheed.Sindhi last updated on 30/Jul/21

  ((x^2 −x+1)/(x^2 +x+1)) = (√((x^3 −1)/(x^3 +1)))    ((√((x^2 −x+1)/(x^2 +x+1))))^2  = (√(((x−1)(x^2 +x+1))/((x+1)(x^2 −x+1))))   ((√((x^2 −x+1)/(x^2 +x+1))))^2 = (√((x−1)/(x+1))).(√((x^2 +x+1)/(x^2 −x+1)))   ((√((x^2 −x+1)/(x^2 +x+1))))^2 − (√((x−1)/(x+1))).((√((x^2 −x+1)/(x^2 +x+1))))^(−1) =0  (√((x^2 −x+1)/(x^2 +x+1)))((√((x^2 −x+1)/(x^2 +x+1)))−(√((x−1)/(x+1))).((√((x^2 −x+1)/(x^2 +x+1))))^(−2) )=0   (√((x^2 −x+1)/(x^2 +x+1)))=0 ∣ (√((x^2 −x+1)/(x^2 +x+1)))=(√((x−1)/(x+1)))((√((x^2 +x+1)/(x^2 −x+1))))^2    ((x^2 −x+1)/(x^2 +x+1))=((x−1)/(x+1))(((x^2 +x+1)/(x^2 −x+1)))^2   (x+1)(x^2 −x+1)^3 =(x−1)(x^2 +x+1)^3   (x^3 +1)(x^2 −x+1)^2 =(x^3 −1)(x^2 +x+1)^2   .....  ....

Commented byRasheed.Sindhi last updated on 30/Jul/21

Sir MJS, please guide me where  I lose real roots?

Commented byMJS_new last updated on 30/Jul/21

your mistake is between lines 4 and 5  line 4: ((√a))^2 −(√b)(√a^(−1) )=0  ⇒^(???)   line 5: (√a^(−1) )((√a^(−1) )−(√b))=0

Commented byRasheed.Sindhi last updated on 30/Jul/21

Yes sir, ThanX a Lot!

Commented byMJS_new last updated on 30/Jul/21

you′re welcome as always!

Commented byRasheed.Sindhi last updated on 31/Jul/21

Sir, one thing I feel that nowadays  you aren′t contributing very much?

Commented byajfour last updated on 31/Jul/21

i had not an idea, it had to do  anything with the Riemann  thing, that question just surfaced  on my mind. thanks for the   link. i have bookmarked it,  indefinite postponement.

Commented byMJS_new last updated on 31/Jul/21

to Sir Rasheed Sindhi: I feel the quality of  questions has been dropping. I stopped  answering certain people because I don′t  do their homework for free and on the other  hand there are those who ask for the solution  of Riemann′s Conjecture on one day and  for the result of simple fractional arithmetics  the other day...

Commented byajfour last updated on 31/Jul/21

the ssymptote thing we are  sure i can do myself, again sorry  to have asked you that.

Commented byMJS_new last updated on 31/Jul/21

I didn′t mean to upset you, as you are one  of the few persons who are the reason I′m  still here. asymptotes of what? I guess I  missed something, sorry

Commented byRasheed.Sindhi last updated on 01/Aug/21

to Sir MJ^(⧫) S: You′re right sir!                    I think there are:     4 catagories of forum-members  (A)Some wants some help:  They do math themselves also.  They want help when they don′t  know or they want variety of   solutions or they want to upgrade  their understanding of math....  They also give feedback(positive/  negative), thank/appreciate to  the persons who have provided  some kind of asistance to them.  (B)Some others want others to  do whole work fo their assinments.  They don′t try themselves.Even  they don′t want to learn much.They  only use others′ work....  (C)Still others only wants to  engage  others.They don′t have learning  goal. (Who one day ask high level  questions and other day ask too  simple questions as you mentioned)  ...  (D)Who want to help others.    Help  A-catagory .For them you  must be always here.They want  to learn sincerely from you sir!