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Question Number 64545 by ajfour last updated on 19/Jul/19

Commented by ajfour last updated on 19/Jul/19

Commented by aliesam last updated on 19/Jul/19

Answered by ajfour last updated on 19/Jul/19

let vertex angle be 2θ.  ⇒ nφ=n((π/2)−θ)=2π  ⇒  θ=(π/2)−((2π)/n)  R=(1/(sin θ)) = (1/(cos (((2π)/n))))  This is clearly wrong, but i  dont understand, how it came  wrong; mrW Sir, please help.  (I deleted my same previous  answer and your commented  answer got deleted alongwith).

$${let}\:{vertex}\:{angle}\:{be}\:\mathrm{2}\theta. \\ $$$$\Rightarrow\:{n}\phi={n}\left(\frac{\pi}{\mathrm{2}}−\theta\right)=\mathrm{2}\pi \\ $$$$\Rightarrow\:\:\theta=\frac{\pi}{\mathrm{2}}−\frac{\mathrm{2}\pi}{{n}} \\ $$$${R}=\frac{\mathrm{1}}{\mathrm{sin}\:\theta}\:=\:\frac{\mathrm{1}}{\mathrm{cos}\:\left(\frac{\mathrm{2}\pi}{{n}}\right)} \\ $$$${This}\:{is}\:{clearly}\:{wrong},\:{but}\:{i} \\ $$$${dont}\:{understand},\:{how}\:{it}\:{came} \\ $$$${wrong};\:{mrW}\:{Sir},\:{please}\:{help}. \\ $$$$\left({I}\:{deleted}\:{my}\:{same}\:{previous}\right. \\ $$$${answer}\:{and}\:{your}\:{commented} \\ $$$$\left.{answer}\:{got}\:{deleted}\:{alongwith}\right). \\ $$

Commented by aliesam last updated on 19/Jul/19

Commented by aliesam last updated on 19/Jul/19

this relationship is true for any n

$${this}\:{relationship}\:{is}\:{true}\:{for}\:{any}\:{n} \\ $$

Commented by mr W last updated on 19/Jul/19

na=2π is always true, but  a=(π/2)−θ is not true!  in your diagram you assume that  both green lines are ⊥ to the sides  of the star, because you take a=(π/2)−θ,  but this is only the case with n=5.  why don′t you check it when you  draw a figur with n=7?

$${na}=\mathrm{2}\pi\:{is}\:{always}\:{true},\:{but} \\ $$$${a}=\frac{\pi}{\mathrm{2}}−\theta\:{is}\:{not}\:{true}! \\ $$$${in}\:{your}\:{diagram}\:{you}\:{assume}\:{that} \\ $$$${both}\:{green}\:{lines}\:{are}\:\bot\:{to}\:{the}\:{sides} \\ $$$${of}\:{the}\:{star},\:{because}\:{you}\:{take}\:{a}=\frac{\pi}{\mathrm{2}}−\theta, \\ $$$${but}\:{this}\:{is}\:{only}\:{the}\:{case}\:{with}\:{n}=\mathrm{5}. \\ $$$${why}\:{don}'{t}\:{you}\:{check}\:{it}\:{when}\:{you} \\ $$$${draw}\:{a}\:{figur}\:{with}\:{n}=\mathrm{7}? \\ $$

Commented by mr W last updated on 19/Jul/19

⇒   n((π/2)−θ)=2π  is not generally true for a n−corner star.  it′s only true for the displayed case  with n=5.  you′ll see the error when you draw a  7−corner star.

$$\Rightarrow\:\:\:{n}\left(\frac{\pi}{\mathrm{2}}−\theta\right)=\mathrm{2}\pi \\ $$$${is}\:{not}\:{generally}\:{true}\:{for}\:{a}\:{n}−{corner}\:{star}. \\ $$$${it}'{s}\:{only}\:{true}\:{for}\:{the}\:{displayed}\:{case} \\ $$$${with}\:{n}=\mathrm{5}. \\ $$$${you}'{ll}\:{see}\:{the}\:{error}\:{when}\:{you}\:{draw}\:{a} \\ $$$$\mathrm{7}−{corner}\:{star}. \\ $$

Commented by aliesam last updated on 20/Jul/19

are sides of the star tangent to the circle?  if yes , then thr two sides in the star are  perpenduclar to the green lines

$${are}\:{sides}\:{of}\:{the}\:{star}\:{tangent}\:{to}\:{the}\:{circle}? \\ $$$${if}\:{yes}\:,\:{then}\:{thr}\:{two}\:{sides}\:{in}\:{the}\:{star}\:{are} \\ $$$${perpenduclar}\:{to}\:{the}\:{green}\:{lines} \\ $$

Answered by mr W last updated on 19/Jul/19

Commented by mr W last updated on 19/Jul/19

CD^(⌢)  is 1/n of the circumcircle  ⇒4ϕ=((2π)/n)  ⇒ϕ=(π/(2n))  sin ϕ=(1/R)  ⇒R=(1/(sin ϕ))=(1/(sin (π/(2n))))

$$\overset{\frown} {{CD}}\:{is}\:\mathrm{1}/{n}\:{of}\:{the}\:{circumcircle} \\ $$$$\Rightarrow\mathrm{4}\varphi=\frac{\mathrm{2}\pi}{{n}} \\ $$$$\Rightarrow\varphi=\frac{\pi}{\mathrm{2}{n}} \\ $$$$\mathrm{sin}\:\varphi=\frac{\mathrm{1}}{{R}} \\ $$$$\Rightarrow{R}=\frac{\mathrm{1}}{\mathrm{sin}\:\varphi}=\frac{\mathrm{1}}{\mathrm{sin}\:\frac{\pi}{\mathrm{2}{n}}} \\ $$

Commented by ajfour last updated on 19/Jul/19

Thanks Sir, but i am still in  doubt in the way i proceeded, i  shall explain how..

$${Thanks}\:{Sir},\:{but}\:{i}\:{am}\:{still}\:{in} \\ $$$${doubt}\:{in}\:{the}\:{way}\:{i}\:{proceeded},\:{i} \\ $$$${shall}\:{explain}\:{how}.. \\ $$

Commented by ajfour last updated on 19/Jul/19

consider n=4    sir?

$${consider}\:{n}=\mathrm{4}\:\:\:\:{sir}? \\ $$

Commented by mr W last updated on 19/Jul/19

maybe we don′t mean the same with  the ′star′ figur. you can not construct  a 4−corner star.  i assume you mean in the question a  five corner star, not a pentagon.  this is what i mean with n=7.

$${maybe}\:{we}\:{don}'{t}\:{mean}\:{the}\:{same}\:{with} \\ $$$${the}\:'{star}'\:{figur}.\:{you}\:{can}\:{not}\:{construct} \\ $$$${a}\:\mathrm{4}−{corner}\:{star}. \\ $$$${i}\:{assume}\:{you}\:{mean}\:{in}\:{the}\:{question}\:{a} \\ $$$${five}\:{corner}\:{star},\:{not}\:{a}\:{pentagon}. \\ $$$${this}\:{is}\:{what}\:{i}\:{mean}\:{with}\:{n}=\mathrm{7}. \\ $$

Commented by mr W last updated on 19/Jul/19

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