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Question Number 226115 by fantastic2 last updated on 20/Nov/25
can we find the black area  (the shadow of earth)on the moon during  moon eclipse after time t of  its starting?  Given:  Moon radius=R_m   Earth rafius=R_e   Sun radius=R_s   ω_e  and ω_m  given(both anticlockwise)  ω_m ⇒Earth is center  ω_e ⇒Sun is center  Sun Earth distance(center)=L_(S−E)   Earth Moon distance(center)=L_(E−M)
$${can}\:{we}\:{find}\:{the}\:{black}\:{area} \\ $$$$\left({the}\:{shadow}\:{of}\:{earth}\right){on}\:{the}\:{moon}\:{during} \\ $$$${moon}\:{eclipse}\:{after}\:{time}\:{t}\:{of} \\ $$$${its}\:{starting}? \\ $$$${Given}: \\ $$$${Moon}\:{radius}={R}_{{m}} \\ $$$${Earth}\:{rafius}={R}_{{e}} \\ $$$${Sun}\:{radius}={R}_{{s}} \\ $$$$\omega_{{e}} \:{and}\:\omega_{{m}} \:{given}\left({both}\:{anticlockwise}\right) \\ $$$$\omega_{{m}} \Rightarrow{Earth}\:{is}\:{center} \\ $$$$\omega_{{e}} \Rightarrow{Sun}\:{is}\:{center} \\ $$$${Sun}\:{Earth}\:{distance}\left({center}\right)={L}_{{S}−{E}} \\ $$$${Earth}\:{Moon}\:{distance}\left({center}\right)={L}_{{E}−{M}} \\ $$
Commented by mr W last updated on 20/Nov/25
yes, it is already very difficult even   when we treat the earth as a sphere.
$${yes},\:{it}\:{is}\:{already}\:{very}\:{difficult}\:{even}\: \\ $$$${when}\:{we}\:{treat}\:{the}\:{earth}\:{as}\:{a}\:{sphere}. \\ $$
Commented by mr W last updated on 20/Nov/25
at first i′m interested why you in   such a question don′t treat the  earth as a sphere, but as an oblate  sphere. do you think the question   were too easy if the earth is seen  as a sphere?  do you have the solution even for   the easy case that the earth is a   sphere?
$${at}\:{first}\:{i}'{m}\:{interested}\:{why}\:{you}\:{in}\: \\ $$$${such}\:{a}\:{question}\:{don}'{t}\:{treat}\:{the} \\ $$$${earth}\:{as}\:{a}\:{sphere},\:{but}\:{as}\:{an}\:{oblate} \\ $$$${sphere}.\:{do}\:{you}\:{think}\:{the}\:{question}\: \\ $$$${were}\:{too}\:{easy}\:{if}\:{the}\:{earth}\:{is}\:{seen} \\ $$$${as}\:{a}\:{sphere}? \\ $$$${do}\:{you}\:{have}\:{the}\:{solution}\:{even}\:{for}\: \\ $$$${the}\:{easy}\:{case}\:{that}\:{the}\:{earth}\:{is}\:{a}\: \\ $$$${sphere}? \\ $$
Commented by fantastic2 last updated on 20/Nov/25
to be honest i didnt think about it   but now i realize that it is   indeed difficult if we take  earth as a sphere
$${to}\:{be}\:{honest}\:{i}\:{didnt}\:{think}\:{about}\:{it}\: \\ $$$${but}\:{now}\:{i}\:{realize}\:{that}\:{it}\:{is}\: \\ $$$${indeed}\:{difficult}\:{if}\:{we}\:{take} \\ $$$${earth}\:{as}\:{a}\:{sphere}\: \\ $$

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